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it could have landed on one of the holy sites of the three great religions. what were they thinking? i think that demonstrates more than anything else who we're up against and why it's important to come out of this with clear arrangements that we get a long period of quiet for the people ever southern israel who deserve to live a normal life. >> so this report that's now moving on the reuters -- from the reuters news service quoting officials as saying that egypt has brokered a cease-fire agreement between hamas and israel, you say -- >> no deal done yet. our strikes against hamas continue. we're hitting them hard until we see an end of rockets launched on israel. now, i understand why hamas is saying what they're doing. we're hitting their command and control, we're hitting their arsenals, hitting their missile launching facilities, historying their communications. we're hitting them hard because they have been shooting at our people, they've been targeting israelis and they still target israelis. i understand they want a time-out, but if they're interested
it could have landed on one of the holy sites of the three great religions. what were they thinking? i think that demonstrates more than anything else who we're up against and why it's important to come out of this with clear arrangements that we get a long period of quiet for the people ever southern israel who deserve to live a normal life. >> so this report that's now moving on the reuters -- from the reuters news service quoting officials as saying that egypt has brokered a cease-fire...
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. >> back to iran now where religion dictates politics and social behavior and the district i of an islamic state. >> a new exhibition opening today shows how ordinary citizens to find ways to express themselves in their everyday lives. >> the german photographer fines even a family picnic can be its own small act of defiance. >> at first glance, the scenes look mundane -- two sisters traditionally dressed, a couple in the mountains outside tehran, two young women at a highway rest stop. >> the image we receive of iran -- i just wanted to check it out for myself in my own subjective way. >> she spent three weeks traveling through iran in september, using her camera lens to determine how much a daily life is -- how much daily life is affected by their oppressive rule. her photographs captured iranians enjoying a picnic, a hugely popular activity in the country. under closer inspection, the pictures reveal the many ways in which people subvert the rule -- young women burial -- barely covering their hair, a young married couple drinking in college together, two young women smoking and fashiona
. >> back to iran now where religion dictates politics and social behavior and the district i of an islamic state. >> a new exhibition opening today shows how ordinary citizens to find ways to express themselves in their everyday lives. >> the german photographer fines even a family picnic can be its own small act of defiance. >> at first glance, the scenes look mundane -- two sisters traditionally dressed, a couple in the mountains outside tehran, two young women at a...
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, particularly monotheistic religions, impacting outcomes of democratic elections as well as perhaps creating a certain amount of instability in terms of governance models that we face. i would be very interested in the panel's assessment of the impact of fundamentalist religious movements, particularly in the context of what is going to be a new normal. >> let's get one more in here. >> i think what is so interesting about this discussion is the baseline question, just putting the question of the new normal in the context of america and american power and leadership. how powerful did america look in 1979 up to vietnam? not very. how powerful did america look in 1989, 10 years later? extremely powerful. 1999, in vincible. 2009-now? well, we have settled down, but we do not really know what we have settled down into. i think it is a baseline question, and i think we forget how quickly the perception of the strings -- strength of american leadership can be. what i think is the question about the new normal is that in all of those previous times, the perception has been that america has
, particularly monotheistic religions, impacting outcomes of democratic elections as well as perhaps creating a certain amount of instability in terms of governance models that we face. i would be very interested in the panel's assessment of the impact of fundamentalist religious movements, particularly in the context of what is going to be a new normal. >> let's get one more in here. >> i think what is so interesting about this discussion is the baseline question, just putting the...
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a rag tag team of globe trotting researchers who are as serious about big foot as the pope is about religion. big foot, yeti, it's often a punch line. people are incredibly skeptical. >> you get punched if you say a joke about stuff around me. >> reporter: like we said, that are really into bigfoot. never mind the fact that the only thing anyone knows for sure about the legendary beast is that it has been wildly successful at filling tabloids, being the subject of terrible b movies. and generally serving as an all-around punch line. >> about what height did you see these guys? >> they were up higher than your hand. >> that's a big boy. >> reporter: matt moneymaker and his team are real life bigfoot hunters. with every bit of cutting edge technology, night vision gear and sensors, they can get their hands on, the group travels the world investigating bigfoot sightings. why are people fascinated by bigfoot. >> well, first, it's more than one. it's not bigfoot, it's bigfoots. there's a misconception that we're looking for one thing. >> reporter: their adventures make up two and soon to be three
a rag tag team of globe trotting researchers who are as serious about big foot as the pope is about religion. big foot, yeti, it's often a punch line. people are incredibly skeptical. >> you get punched if you say a joke about stuff around me. >> reporter: like we said, that are really into bigfoot. never mind the fact that the only thing anyone knows for sure about the legendary beast is that it has been wildly successful at filling tabloids, being the subject of terrible b movies....
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he believed in the cultural utility of religion. he believed in religious liblt which has a religious person myself, religious liberty is fundament fundamental, so to speak, and critical to the actual practice of religion because faith that's coerced isn't faith. it's tyranny. if god himself didn't compel obedience, then no man or government should try. i think the other thing that comes up a lot with jefferson is he's caricatured as a hopeless hypocrite. the author of declaration of independence is a slave owner, we can't learn from him. he was not a conventional christian. he must be a atheist. we can't deal with him. one of the reasons we're talking about him here is that he embodied the best and the worst and all the multiple variations of the american experience all in one remarkable frame, in one remarkable life so long ago that it feels very modern. thomas jefferson is the one founder i can imagine having a drink with. you know, i really can't imagine hanging out with george washington, and i'm as boring of a white guy you ca
he believed in the cultural utility of religion. he believed in religious liblt which has a religious person myself, religious liberty is fundament fundamental, so to speak, and critical to the actual practice of religion because faith that's coerced isn't faith. it's tyranny. if god himself didn't compel obedience, then no man or government should try. i think the other thing that comes up a lot with jefferson is he's caricatured as a hopeless hypocrite. the author of declaration of...
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obama made an unannounced stop at a holy site, the center of the religion. there, the president made the ceremonial water pouring. then it was off to the home of aung san kyi, where the nobel prize peace winner lived under house arrest. >> i would like to see president obama in my country, and in my heart. >> reporter: later, the president formally addressed the president in a speech where he justified his trip to the still not-yet free country. >> i said, in my address, we will extend a hand if you're willing to unclench your fist. under the president, the desire for change has been met by an agenda for reform. so today, i have come to extend my hand of friendship. >> reporter: the president tried to draw the american history to push myanmar even further. >> i stand before you today from the most powerful nation on earth, but recognizing once the color of my skin would have denied me the right to vote. if our country can change its differences, then yours can, too. >> reporter: not even on the ground 12 hours, the president headed for his last stop, two asi
obama made an unannounced stop at a holy site, the center of the religion. there, the president made the ceremonial water pouring. then it was off to the home of aung san kyi, where the nobel prize peace winner lived under house arrest. >> i would like to see president obama in my country, and in my heart. >> reporter: later, the president formally addressed the president in a speech where he justified his trip to the still not-yet free country. >> i said, in my address, we...
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said or religion. he is grasping at straws there. several members of the house select committee on intelligence were signa fors to the letter. there was duncun from carolina 1k3* mccal from texas. we don't want her being secretary of state. i agree with the context of the letter that basically says one of two things. either she is income at the present time or she was part of a cover up. i personally do not believe susan rice is incompetent fnlt she is a -- she is a grajett with of stanford and did road studies on african countries. she is not incompetent and dumb. she is very smart. it is highly likely she is part of a cover up. >> have you objective reasons for objecting to susan rice to become the next secretary of state. you are objective, you believe , in your letter. >> why do you think president obama was considering susan rice to be secretary of state? why did her name p poo up? >> from >> why did her name pop up? >> they are very close as he is to eric holder, the attorney general. and these are people he has confidence in a
said or religion. he is grasping at straws there. several members of the house select committee on intelligence were signa fors to the letter. there was duncun from carolina 1k3* mccal from texas. we don't want her being secretary of state. i agree with the context of the letter that basically says one of two things. either she is income at the present time or she was part of a cover up. i personally do not believe susan rice is incompetent fnlt she is a -- she is a grajett with of stanford and...
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when it was said that washington doesn't want to spoil the negotiations clearly going on between these religions palestinians in cairo but frankly speaking it's difficult to understand how they could be spoiled since obviously they haven't been very effective so far meanwhile in cambodia russia's foreign minister lavrov has met with u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton and on the so called on board freeze release and palestinians to put their weapons down immediately and get to the negotiations deeble at the same time he outlined that moscow is in talks with both sides of this conflict and he's called on everybody else to do the same to give way for all the possible diplomatic solutions to this be it in cairo or at the u.n. security council which pretty much reflects the main point of the draft resolution put forward by russia. and then go the israeli parliament told me that the government has unnecessarily escalated the confrontation with how much we have two billion mind that not all the civilians in gaza in gaza. are how mad they are civilians and deserve a normal life exactly the same her
when it was said that washington doesn't want to spoil the negotiations clearly going on between these religions palestinians in cairo but frankly speaking it's difficult to understand how they could be spoiled since obviously they haven't been very effective so far meanwhile in cambodia russia's foreign minister lavrov has met with u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton and on the so called on board freeze release and palestinians to put their weapons down immediately and get to the...
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for christians the majority religion in the u.s., there's christian mingle. you probably have seen the commercials. even muslims are on the hunt for a date. muslima.com is one of the more popular sites. finding a partner of the same faith is important to many jewish-americans, so they use j date and the site talks about its results. >> different sides of the country. >> here we are madly in love with two kids later, and if it wasn't for j date, we never would have met. >> going on j-date led to this amazing life that i have. >> i knew by the second date. >> i know you heard a baby. you thought is that baby somewhere? yes, her name is willa. she's here with her parents, jason and melissa. they met on j-date, married last year, had the baby, willa. hello, willa. thank you for joining us this morning. both of you, thank you. tell us about the importance of finding a date -- good morning. about finding love and the importance of religion in finding that. >> i grew nup a very traditional jewish household, and it was very important to me to pass that on many my fam
for christians the majority religion in the u.s., there's christian mingle. you probably have seen the commercials. even muslims are on the hunt for a date. muslima.com is one of the more popular sites. finding a partner of the same faith is important to many jewish-americans, so they use j date and the site talks about its results. >> different sides of the country. >> here we are madly in love with two kids later, and if it wasn't for j date, we never would have met. >>...
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tell you one of the best lessons taught me was not to look at the world, not to judge people by their religion, skin color, financial status or anything like that, but accept them for who they are because i have to tell you i am guilty of having what i said call small town complex. using your world is only this big because that is how you were taught. i am 24 and that is not the case. we always do that. we are so fast to judge one another without getting to know one another. i definitely think it is something we could listen to. in northeastern afghanistan, right on the back -- pakistan border, this is who i would be stationed with. lt. johnson and dr. lee in. stock way was that navy corpsman but as anybody knows anything about navy corpsman they might as well the marines. i will call him a marine from here on out. [applause] >> part of my opportunity was getting to meet these guys and develop the team because this was a group of guys i call my brothers. when the team was put together the brass picks different skill sets, ranks, throw them in a team, they don't ask about personality or anythin
tell you one of the best lessons taught me was not to look at the world, not to judge people by their religion, skin color, financial status or anything like that, but accept them for who they are because i have to tell you i am guilty of having what i said call small town complex. using your world is only this big because that is how you were taught. i am 24 and that is not the case. we always do that. we are so fast to judge one another without getting to know one another. i definitely think...
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the national religion in the u.s. is the military and the journalists are the high priests. >> what does this mean for afghanistan and the cia? you have this military general becoming the head of the cia, now david petraeus -- the have whatever will happen to john allen. what does this mean? >> i'm not sure means anything as far as the policy national security state. i think it will simply be replaced. i'm not sure that general allen is going anywhere. certainly, david petraeus was an important person in the sense he was a revered, almost as a religious figure, that he shielded the cia and other military institutions from any kind of criticism i think -- >> and has been pushing for an expansion of the drone war. >> and president obama, the commander in chief, his boss, is very much on board with the expansion not just of the drone war, the conversion of the cia and to even more of a paramilitary organization than it has ever been before. i think that will continue fully apace on whoever steps and will be fully on boar
the national religion in the u.s. is the military and the journalists are the high priests. >> what does this mean for afghanistan and the cia? you have this military general becoming the head of the cia, now david petraeus -- the have whatever will happen to john allen. what does this mean? >> i'm not sure means anything as far as the policy national security state. i think it will simply be replaced. i'm not sure that general allen is going anywhere. certainly, david petraeus was...
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all great religions endorsed the golden rule. the same moral standards that individuals are required to follow should apply to all government officials. they cannot be exempt. the solution is not in the hands of the government. the solution falls on each and every individual with guidance of family, friends and community. the number one responsibility for each of us is to change ourselves with hope that others willollow. this is of greater importance in the working on changing the government. that is secondary to promoting a virtueous society. if we can achieve this then the government will change. it doesn't mean that holding office holds no value. at sometimes it nudges policy in the right direction but when it's true while seeking office is done for money or power, it becomes useful if not harmful. when political action is taken for the right reasons, it's easy to understand why compromise should be avoided. it's also become clear while progress is best achieved while working with coalitions which bring people together without
all great religions endorsed the golden rule. the same moral standards that individuals are required to follow should apply to all government officials. they cannot be exempt. the solution is not in the hands of the government. the solution falls on each and every individual with guidance of family, friends and community. the number one responsibility for each of us is to change ourselves with hope that others willollow. this is of greater importance in the working on changing the government....
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i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of drones. there are hundreds more than there ever were in the bush administration. there's clear security rationale for some of them. there are certainly issues. the administration's execity -- executive privilege in making these decisions. i don't think petraeus was the only person who has been the master mind. this has been -- there are many figures in the administration that feel strongly about this. i don't see the policy changing. but there is certainly a feeling in pakistan, especially, in the horn of africa and other places new york yemen, it wa
i don't think that that is religion specific. i think that's across the board , his relationship with israel, his relationship with the muslim world. host: this is a "financial times" editorial today. rethink on drones after petraeus exit. general petraeus has been the master mind behind using deprones to go after al qaeda in the horn of africa, etc. what has been the world reaction to these -- this type of mill tear strategy. guest: the administration has doubled down on thes you of...
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own space in the park and they got it and they put up things like quotes from thomas jefferson saying religion was nothing but mythology. last year the atheists flooded the city with applications. when the space permits were handed out christmas had two, hanukkah had one, the atheists had 18, put up things like jesus, santa and satan. most of their things were vandalized. the city of santa monica got fed up and said no more displays for anybody. the church has filed suit saying quoting here if they want to hold an opposing viewpoint about the celebration of christmas they are free to do that but they can't interest near with our rights to engage in religious speech in a traditional public forum and the court situation started maybe 25, 30 minutes ago and the judge has handed down a tentative ruling and they are denying, get this the judge will deny injunction application, meaning there will be no display in sal saeudz park for anybody. in other words palisades park for anybody. the city of santa monica wins, the churches loose and for the first time in 60 years there will be no nativity scene
own space in the park and they got it and they put up things like quotes from thomas jefferson saying religion was nothing but mythology. last year the atheists flooded the city with applications. when the space permits were handed out christmas had two, hanukkah had one, the atheists had 18, put up things like jesus, santa and satan. most of their things were vandalized. the city of santa monica got fed up and said no more displays for anybody. the church has filed suit saying quoting here if...
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but i think this partisan manipulation of religion, i'm an evangelical and what's clear now is that evangelical will no longer mean white evangelical and franklin graham has to get used to that. evangelical is hispanic, african-americans, asians, didn't vote the way he did this time by a large majority. so we brought other issues into the election like how we treat the poor, how we treat the environment, how we welcome strangers. you in evangelicals last week writing the president last week saying how we treat the immigrant undocumented people is for us a biblical issue. we're going to write them again this week, the president and say who are serving the poor at christmastime and thanksgiving we're involved in that. those of us who are doing that are going to say to our members of congress don't make decisions that make the poor poorer and make our work harder. so you might say we're doing turkey baskets for the poor than baskets of letters to our some of our turkeys who represent us in congress. >> the moral majority for so longing had sway with partisan sway. do you think that their influence
but i think this partisan manipulation of religion, i'm an evangelical and what's clear now is that evangelical will no longer mean white evangelical and franklin graham has to get used to that. evangelical is hispanic, african-americans, asians, didn't vote the way he did this time by a large majority. so we brought other issues into the election like how we treat the poor, how we treat the environment, how we welcome strangers. you in evangelicals last week writing the president last week...
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our religion correspondent, lauren green, is live with this story. >> hi, jenna. as you said,ouses of worship are supposed to be sanctuaries for the broken hearted, but countless are in great need of healing themselves. the repair work as begun at all saints in bayhead, new jersey, but the road ahead is wrong. the historic structure was built in the late 1800s and designed by boat builders but was never meant to withstand the surge from dirty bay water that sandy brought. >> if it had been just the ocean water, it would have been a lot cleaner, but because it was the bay water and the ditch, it threw the mud in as well and caused more damage than if it had been just purely clean sea water. >> reporter: now, sandy was an equal opportunity destroyer. at western synagogue in queens, new york, the rabbi surveys the damage. the storm put the entire neighborhood and temple under at least four feet of water. the once-pristine sanctuary now has buckling floors, the holy books are unusable, but because of their religious content they cannot be burned, so they sit covered o
our religion correspondent, lauren green, is live with this story. >> hi, jenna. as you said,ouses of worship are supposed to be sanctuaries for the broken hearted, but countless are in great need of healing themselves. the repair work as begun at all saints in bayhead, new jersey, but the road ahead is wrong. the historic structure was built in the late 1800s and designed by boat builders but was never meant to withstand the surge from dirty bay water that sandy brought. >> if it...
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it is not a popular believe but my religion teaches me that hurricanes are god's punishment for pat robertson. and we had kind of a weird experience. i lived in greenwich village my whole life. i just moved uptown. i have a baby and i can't live in my shoe box anymore. my place is very, very small. the anne frank family was like "can we see something else"? we moved uptown and thought we had dodged the hurricane because we didn't lose power. i had all of the upper westside guilt. it was amazing because all of manhattan, they closed off all of the bridges and tunnels. manhattan was isolated from the rest of america which is how people of manhattan already view themselves. then i had a flood in my place downtown after the hurricane and then my storage unit was flooded with four feets of hudson river sewage water. >> oh! >> john: i would like to invite all of you climate change deniers to come and help me get the sewage smell out of my winter clothes because man there was some real destruction. it was really heartening to hear al gore call on obama to talk about a carbon tax and i think that you
it is not a popular believe but my religion teaches me that hurricanes are god's punishment for pat robertson. and we had kind of a weird experience. i lived in greenwich village my whole life. i just moved uptown. i have a baby and i can't live in my shoe box anymore. my place is very, very small. the anne frank family was like "can we see something else"? we moved uptown and thought we had dodged the hurricane because we didn't lose power. i had all of the upper westside guilt. it...
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this one rings true with me, with regard to religion. it's okay to make fun of christians, but not other religions. >> let's look, you can do the book of mormon. i live near the -- where it plays. people come out, they love it. it's fantastic. but if you do a where is mohammed car too. all the people who run the tolerance, they didn't run the cartoon of the they actually suffer from islamphobia. they point to the writer and conservatives and go, because you're upset about the mosque near the world trade center remains -- >> brian: you're anti-muslim. let's talk about the occupy movement and compared to the tea party movement. that's the impetus by why a guy of your intellect writes a book like this. >> it drove me nuts. the media in part drove most of this because they see themselves in the romantic ideals of the occupy movement when, in fact, everything about the occupy movement was an attack on american values. whereas, the tea party celebrated smaller government and basically individual liberty, which to them, to a reporter, to the me
this one rings true with me, with regard to religion. it's okay to make fun of christians, but not other religions. >> let's look, you can do the book of mormon. i live near the -- where it plays. people come out, they love it. it's fantastic. but if you do a where is mohammed car too. all the people who run the tolerance, they didn't run the cartoon of the they actually suffer from islamphobia. they point to the writer and conservatives and go, because you're upset about the mosque near...
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make no law respecting establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. enough said. >> steve: ty tweeted us, it's just another liberal attempt to place restrictions on daily lives. california never read the constitution. >> brian: this is from linda. hi says the atheists don't want to celebrate christmas, don't. don't try to impede the freedoms of others. >> steve: the santa monica nativity committee is now suing. they argue in their lawsuit that atheists have the right to protest, but that freedom does not trump the christian's right to free speech. what do you think? e-mail us, or tweet us because twine has just -- brian has gotten it. >> brian: general petraeus gave us success in iraq when no one else could. when the time came for us to be generous in return, our next guest says we failed. is he right? >> steve: then the city set to bulldoze hundreds of houses ruined by sandy. one problem, they might not even tell the people who own the houses. what if they still have stuff inside? we're going to discuss that and talk about the home wreckers. begin. t
make no law respecting establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. enough said. >> steve: ty tweeted us, it's just another liberal attempt to place restrictions on daily lives. california never read the constitution. >> brian: this is from linda. hi says the atheists don't want to celebrate christmas, don't. don't try to impede the freedoms of others. >> steve: the santa monica nativity committee is now suing. they argue in their lawsuit that atheists...
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it is a powerful but small right wing fundamentalist fringe of the world's great religions that think it is dandy to solve violence -- to use violence to solve your problems. we'll point out if god or jehovah didn't like anyone, he would smite them himself. that's my superstitious way because i believe the religious talk. so after this, of course, news busters went crazy and ran a whole article about how proterrorism i was and prohamas. it was great as a result of being on the "bill press show" which does have one of the sexiest and most aware audiences in all of radio to have the exact opposite come at me all night. i'm proud i was able to drag this fine show's name into the news busters' gutter because calling news busters bottom feeders is insulting to carp. i don't want to do that. has bill ever gotten in trouble with those guys? >> news busters? all the time. >> john: anything you say -- any time you say anything that's moral or intellectually decent. >> that web site there. is no credibility there. so i don't even check that web site. i read a lot of right wing stuff. and you kn
it is a powerful but small right wing fundamentalist fringe of the world's great religions that think it is dandy to solve violence -- to use violence to solve your problems. we'll point out if god or jehovah didn't like anyone, he would smite them himself. that's my superstitious way because i believe the religious talk. so after this, of course, news busters went crazy and ran a whole article about how proterrorism i was and prohamas. it was great as a result of being on the "bill press...
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to bless them with good government, peace and concord, to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue and the increase of science among them and us and generally to grant unto mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best. george washington's official thanksgiving proclamation, october 14, in the year of our lord, 1789. and here before or as we finish and recess for thanksgiving, the visual day this year proclaimed by this year's president, president barack obama, i am, mr. speaker, profoundly grateful as all these presidents i've mentioned, thankful to god for my blessings. i know they're not earned. there was nothing i ever did in the womb to deserve to be born in the greatest country in the history, but i was blessed because generations before were blessed and it's an honor to rise up and call them blessed for the opportunities that were given us through their devotion and thanksgiving and hard work and acknowledgment to god for our blessings. mr. speaker, i was blessed with an older sister, whom i love. i'm blessed with two younger brothers,
to bless them with good government, peace and concord, to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue and the increase of science among them and us and generally to grant unto mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best. george washington's official thanksgiving proclamation, october 14, in the year of our lord, 1789. and here before or as we finish and recess for thanksgiving, the visual day this year proclaimed by this year's president,...